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TPadden
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USA
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  09:50:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I finally gave up on W7 for my 1620; works great for my Fujitsu U810 and desktop. With a clean install I tried everything I could find but the P1620 would only come out of sleep once fine then a second time BSOD or freeze.

From checking the W7 forums I KNOW it is related to USB and ACPI as many others are having sleep recovery problems. I'm the only one I've found that only has it after one successful sleep recovery cycle.

I tried changing advanced power USB settings and everything else recommended but no luck.

Anyone else?

Tom
Gainesville, Mo.

Kilrah
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Switzerland
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  10:08:27  Show Profile  Visit Kilrah's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hm just in case, what BIOS version are you using? What hardware config in the P1620?

P1620 - 2GB, 120GB/5400rpm HD, 32GB Transcend 133x CF + Delkin UDMA, hacked internal 3G, W7RC
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TPadden
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  10:44:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kilrah

Hm just in case, what BIOS version are you using? What hardware config in the P1620?

P1620 - 2GB, 120GB/5400rpm HD, 32GB Transcend 133x CF + Delkin UDMA, hacked internal 3G, W7RC



No sleep problems with either Vista or XP - but I prefer XP to Vista. The U810 is also running a SSD and has a USB screen also without a problem with W7 Sleep. Otherwise I really liked W7 but from the site seems to have sleep problems related to ACPI and USB.

2g mem, Mtron SSD, 32 GB Kingston 133CF + Delkin 32 Bit, BIOS 1.06.

Tom
Gainesville, Mo.
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Kilrah
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  10:58:24  Show Profile  Visit Kilrah's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I asked because I've had several sleep-related issues with BIOS V1.06. Reverting to 1.03 solved everything, and I don't see any other difference between the 2. Might be worth a try.

What's the error on the BSOD?

P1620 - 2GB, 120GB/5400rpm HD, 32GB Transcend 133x CF + Delkin UDMA, hacked internal 3G, W7RC
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TPadden
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  11:12:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found a newer Intel 945 driver on Intel's site; trying one more W7 clean install and will give the newer video driver a shot.

Tom
Gainesville, Mo.
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TPadden
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  11:16:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kilrah

I asked because I've had several sleep-related issues with BIOS V1.06. Reverting to 1.03 solved everything, and I don't see any other difference between the 2. Might be worth a try.

What's the error on the BSOD?

P1620 - 2GB, 120GB/5400rpm HD, 32GB Transcend 133x CF + Delkin UDMA, hacked internal 3G, W7RC



I've never seen it - I either get a freeze requiring a hard restart or when it comes out of sleep notification of a restart caused by BSOD with no further info.

I'll try going back to 1.03 if the video driver doesn't do it.

Thanks

Tom
Gainesville, Mo.
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Kilrah
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  11:25:13  Show Profile  Visit Kilrah's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TPadden
notification of a restart caused by BSOD with no further info.


Have you disabled auto-restart on system error?

P1620 - 2GB, 120GB/5400rpm HD, 32GB Transcend 133x CF + Delkin UDMA, hacked internal 3G, W7RC
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tmt
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  11:29:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd strongly recommend going into Control Panel->System->Advanded->Startup and Recovery,
and turning off the "Automatically restart" checkbox. This will keep the BSOD on-screen
so you can get an idea what's actually causing it. Look especially for the code, and
the module it was executing in.

I agree that updating the video driver is a good idea. But if the issue persists, I'd
strongly recommend installing the original Fujitsu Vista video package. It will work
fine and in my experience it draws less power as well.

Tom.
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TPadden
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USA
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  11:40:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kilrah

quote:
Originally posted by TPadden
notification of a restart caused by BSOD with no further info.


Have you disabled auto-restart on system error?

P1620 - 2GB, 120GB/5400rpm HD, 32GB Transcend 133x CF + Delkin UDMA, hacked internal 3G, W7RC



Will do; currently doing another clean install.

Tom
Gainesville, Mo.
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TPadden
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  11:41:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tmt

...I agree that updating the video driver is a good idea. But if the issue persists, I'd
strongly recommend installing the original Fujitsu Vista video package. It will work
fine and in my experience it draws less power as well.

Tom.



Thanks, will do if new video driver then old BIOS don't work .

Tom
Gainesville, Mo.
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Kilrah
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  11:45:38  Show Profile  Visit Kilrah's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As a driver, I'm using what W7 installed by itself, nothing more. Maybe upgraded once when W7 offered an upgrade in the optional updates. Works perfectly well.
If I remember well, the only driver I installed was the button driver and utility, all the rest was working by itself. If it aint broke, don't fix it - if the touchscreen/graphics or whatever work, no point in installing the Fujitsu driver.

P1620 - 2GB, 120GB/5400rpm HD, 32GB Transcend 133x CF + Delkin UDMA, hacked internal 3G, W7RC

Edited by - Kilrah on 08/31/2009 11:52:09
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tmt
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  14:58:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, the Intel drivers in Win7 generally work well, and they were updated recently via
Windows Update. Both have worked fine for me on a similar 945-equipped motherboard. But
I did find that the 7.14.xxx drivers saved power, relative to Win7's 8.15.xxx drivers.

The most important thing to do is narrow down the candidates for the BSOD. Do that *before*
fishing for BIOS and driver updates/downgrades, etc. Fix one thing at a time, and let us
know the guilty party!

Tom.
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TPadden
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USA
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Posted - 08/31/2009 :  15:37:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So far no BSOD's. On my previous installs I ran the Fujitsu "Click Me' driver/app setup in Vista compatibility mode. I think that might have been the problem although I didn't narrow it down to which one might be the culprit.

Still testing ........

Tom
Gainesville, Mo.
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paracelsus
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Posted - 09/13/2009 :  00:02:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TPadden

From checking the W7 forums I KNOW it is related to USB and ACPI as many others are having sleep recovery problems. I'm the only one I've found that only has it after one successful sleep recovery cycle.

I tried changing advanced power USB settings and everything else recommended but no luck.

Anyone else?



Here, here, me, me!

I'd wager a bet you have a SD-Card in your slot permanently, right?

Here is the rundown on my issue: I did clean installs with both Vista Business (as supplied with the P1620) and Win7, each time using the Fujitsu driver Updater to get the entire bunch of drivers.

No matter how I setup hibernation and sleep, I had the almost same issues as you - system would boot, sleep or hibernate, wakeup from that state exactly ONCE and then not wakeup from another sleep/hibernate. I never got a bluescreen, only a "dead" system with a black screen when i tried to wakeup for a 2nd time.

I spent ****** ages trying to figure out what was wrong, same error across two operating systems, Fujitsu Support here in Germany was less than helpful.

Started fresh with a clean slate (Windows-native drivers only) and surprise, the error was gone, I could hibernate as often as I wanted with no problems. I then started the tedious one-by-one driver elimination. Result (as you may have guessed from my 2nd sentence) - the ****** O2micro SD-Card slot driver screws up somehow when installed.

I now have a Win7 RC (no time yet to install the RTM) with ALL the Fujitsu Update Utility drivers except the SD-Card slot driver and the system works like a charm. The native Windows slot driver works fine and I don't think there is any speed drawback between that one and the O2micro driver.

Hope this helps.
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TPadden
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USA
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Posted - 09/13/2009 :  02:44:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paracelsusHere, here, me, me!

I'd wager a bet you have a SD-Card in your slot permanently, right?....



Yes - and I think you're correct - I never was quite sure it was the video driver but on the recent good install I also didn't load Fujitsu's O2micro SD-Card slot driver. I never really felt the video driver was the guilty party but was happy it was hibernating and sleeping with recovery !

Tom
Gainesville, Mo.
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paracelsus
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Posted - 09/13/2009 :  02:59:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, you can safely use the Fujitsu Updater Tool to install ANY driver except the O2micro. Aside from that I have the Authentec drivers for Win7 and I take every suggested video driver update from Windows Auto Update and it keeps running just fine.

Lifebook P1620 / 2GB / 100GB / BT
Samsung Omnia i900 16GB+16GB / modded Firmware
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Kilrah
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Switzerland
277 Posts

Posted - 09/13/2009 :  04:10:18  Show Profile  Visit Kilrah's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paracelsus
Aside from that I have the Authentec drivers for Win7



Does the fingerprint logon work for you? No way here with the W7 driver Authentec provides on their site...

P1620 - 2GB, 120GB/5400rpm HD, 32GB Transcend 133x CF + Delkin UDMA, hacked internal 3G, W7RC
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paracelsus
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Posted - 09/13/2009 :  05:02:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yup, absolutely no issue (on the RC I run on the P1620 as of now). It worked on the W7beta as well. Installed the driver, went into the "Biometrics" setup in the control panel, enrolled the finger. Then on the next login I am presente with the "user icon" and the password query and a separate icon below that (as if a second account existed) with fingerprint pictogram. Choose that and swipe the finger, login.

This goes for the initial login, only thing thats giving me trouble is the "repeat" login after hibernation so I turned that off. Technically I'd do well with no windows login at all cause the system drive is truecrypted, so after hibernation I have to unlock the drive anyways, I still keep fingerprint login enabled though for the "gadgety" effect.

Lifebook P1620 / 2GB / 100GB / BT
Samsung Omnia i900 16GB+16GB / modded Firmware
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Kilrah
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Switzerland
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Posted - 09/13/2009 :  05:25:32  Show Profile  Visit Kilrah's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK.
I installed the Authentec driver, and then would get an app crash in "truesuite.fpr", the Authentec module for the biometric system, when going into the biometric settings.
I found a way to bypass that on a forum, and can now get to the enrolling screen, but I can swipe my finger as much as I want and it will never do anything, no response at all.

The hardware is being recognised correctly, but somehow something is screwing up.

P1620 - 2GB, 120GB/5400rpm HD, 32GB Transcend 133x CF + Delkin UDMA, hacked internal 3G, W7RC

Edited by - Kilrah on 09/13/2009 05:26:30
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paracelsus
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Posted - 09/15/2009 :  08:43:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Odd. Are you maybe missing some of the Fujitsu drivers? I have installed the entire suite via DeskUpdate (except o2micro) and it never gave me trouble. However I will install the Win7 RTM soonish and then take note on my exact steps during installation, maybe this is one of the odd situations where the installation _sequence_ of drivers makes a difference.

Lifebook P1620 / 2GB / 100GB / BT
Samsung Omnia i900 16GB+16GB / modded Firmware
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TPadden
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USA
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Posted - 09/24/2009 :  23:18:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paracelsus... only thing thats giving me trouble is the "repeat" login after hibernation so I turned that off.


Same here until I went to Device Manager, Biometric Devices, Authentec, Properties, Power Management, and unchecked "allow computer to turn this device off to save power"

Tom
Gainesville, Mo.
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